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No, really, I swear this will be the last post. I don`t want to spam people with this, but since the reaction was so favourable and because people seeme interested, I am putting up the crap pattern pieces and sketches.


Firstly - before embarking on the project try to have a dummy or victim to try on the coat and stick pins into. MAKE A TEST PATTERN, out of CLOTH.

Here`s how I rolled - I sketched the coat, noting seam lines and details. I sketched the pattern pieces based on this.

Then I sketched directly onto the test fabric, cut and sewed with a large baste stitch on my machine. I screwed parts up, tore them apart, cut new pieces or adjusted others. I had of course my own body to measure from, and an old coat pattern to get the approximate sleeve holes and upper collar from. I had bits from Burda 4127 to use. I say bits because I lost most of the parts of the pattern but didn't care - I made up my own freaking pattern after all. The coat isn't that hard - few seam lines. The tricky bit is the back... and then getting the button and pocket placement, but see the previous posts on this by clicking on the tag, 'how to make'.


If you have an old winter coat pattern, grab it. Look at it, use it to get things like "Where's the waistline? What's the best length? (Hint - mid calf on Cumberbatch.) How do I do an armscythe? What the fuck is an armscythe it sounds like a weapon with curves? (Hint, it IS, the bastard things.)"


You want the coat to be loose if you are doing a true man's style. If you are doing a lady's, well. If you have a substantial chest and want to accentuate it a princess line coat would be more your thing and this is not the coat pattern for you. Even so - LOOSE FIT. How else will you fit your John jumpers/ Sherlock suit jackets underneath? This ain't a corset or goth coat!


Cut the body front first and the top back of the coat, and put it together, test the shoulder width, the length. Actually, no. Don't test the length - best if you cut it to length AFTER it's all together. Always leave hem space, always cut too big and leave room for error.


Above - the button used on Sherlock's coat. It looks like leather, is domed and has a gold-colour rope edging.

Mine was nowhere near that quality. I had a leather look plastic button with stitch marks on the outside. I touched it up with gold paint and then added gloss. Be creative. But definitely try to get a gold border button or paint one - it provides contrast.



The skirt back is box pleated in centre with two knife pleats aligned with the darts in the upper back.

The cuff has what I suppose I can call a Peter-pan round edge to it. It is edge stitched and is a turn-back style, I think. Well, mine is - I have the option of rolling it down or up more. At the moment It's tacked in place at the perfect length.


The belt pieces are about 3" wide WITH NO SEAM ALLOWANCES (don't forget to put them in!) and the ends are rounded off, overlap and have buttons placed just inside the dart line. Are there button holes on the top piece? Possibly. Can't see. I tacked the belt ends together - I guess if I want the coat to be more waisted I could pull them in more. The belt should cover the join of skirt and back by at least 1 cm! (I don't know what that is in inches.)


The under collar - I don't really know what to call this piece - there's something like a... stiffener? Extra support? Something under the collar, anyway. I could never get a good pic of it, because I had only seen Series One at that point, and you just don't get a good pic of it. I extrapolated. If anyone ever geeks out enough to correct me on this and how it should go, I would love to know. I cannot advise on it properly.

So, there's clearly an piece on the under collar - I see the seam lines, I see the top stitch. Is it applied over the under-collar? Was it integrated as part of it? I am not a tailor IRL so I can't say. I went an easy route since I had no idea, and I wanted the stiffness of a double layer of wool to help the collar stand up in the back.

**Edit - yes this piece is a feature on some coats. If anyone gets a pic of their own coat collar I could say more about this piece. And how it should look? I would love to know.


The red lines are top stitching, the blue are probably seam lines.


My interpretation -

I tapered the end so it didn't have clunky thickness intersecting the collar edge.

The button is an element you see in some pics of the coat. It's for doing up the coat fully to the chin, breast flaps completely overlapped.

I also noticed two small buttons on the inside of the lapel near the buttons holes, which definitely must be for the fur collar. You do NOT see these buttons on every coat he wears - I assume that the costume crew removed them on two of the three coats, and left them on one. Up to you to include or not.






The sleeve toile is version two - version one was too narrow and the cuff too complicated. As you can see, I ended up redrafting the cuff - I wasn't think about what I needed to turn them back- too tight! When making yours, look at the Belstaff one - it is so tight and smooth to the sleeve. It could be tacked down. If you do make a turn-back cuff like mine, you have this option. You want to be careful not to make it too tight or the sleeve will be wrinkled underneath, squeezed by the cuff. Too loose and it doesn't look Belstaff.



Sorry about the above back pattern pic - the one in wool is NOT the one used, or I wouldn't still have it to take pics of. It was too narrow, and the coat was too tight on my chest. The red SHOULD be the cut lines. Look at the pattern sketch above for how to do it.










Actual pocket size for my coat when finished and lined - 7 1/2" by 9", the flap 7 1/2" by 4". You could make them a big bigger if you are my size (5'9ish"). they hold mi phone and wallet comfortably.


AGAIN I SAY - cut the coat long, and trim it to length afterwards. This way you won't have a crooked hem.

Okay, think I am getting to the end of notes here - what else can I say?

If your coat has an obvious pattern, be aware of this when cutting - make the pieces pattern go the same way. I ripped off the one pocket because my hounds-tooth faced the wrong direction. Why yes, I AM anal retentive that way! And if you look at the Belstaff coat, you will see they did the same. Make yourself stand out in the details, even if no one will notice.

Oh, and the welt pockets - you could conceivably just fake them on. I chose to have pockets and added a snap inside to keep things in place. I like pockets. I only regret not putting an inside breast pocket in, I love those best of all in mens' coats. I would love to think the Belstaff has one, but there's no proof as yet. I may retro-fit a path pocket with zip on the inside to keep the line of the coat smooth - when I put my iPod in the welt pocket it lumps the front. Well, my boobs do that as well, so life's a bitch.


Note the pattern direction of the fabric - Belstaff knows their shit. The pattern of the welt pockets and patch pockets and flaps all go the same direction. I did the same.




















That's the snap I put inside the welt. I think I's rather have a zip, but this is enough to keep my iPod slipping out. I wouldn't keep change in these pockets.


Anyway. That's it - that's the pattern. It may be of help, or it may not. I am an experienced Army docto... an talented semi-amateur who likes to play around until she gets things right and obsesses over details.











If I ever was fool hardy enough to do this again (like, if someone handed me the real Belstaff Irish tweed wool) I would tweak the following on the coat:

a) Make the collar a shade shorter in length, more cornered. And the lapels a smidge narrower again.

b) Find out what the under collar extra piece really is.

c) find the right dye to darken the wool. The houndstooth is fine but this wool is bizarre and has a small amount of Mylar, MYLAR for god's sake. I sparkle in a subtle way like a Twi-vamp in the sun. Had hoped I could burn the mylar out with the iron, no such luck.
d) do the interior pocket.

e) add a touch more flare for the pleats in back.


Thanks for reading!




**EDIT** Someone wanted to know the exact dimensions of my pleats. Probably not perfect, because I am rubbish at pleats, and because I mainly just draped the coat and eye-balled it to make sure the pleat depth was similar to screen shots.Measurement are in centimeters, NOT INCHES.

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Date: 2012-02-12 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-guinevere.livejournal.com
this is (as john would say) fantastic!
Thanks for sharing, I'm bookmarking this ;)

Date: 2012-02-12 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thank you! I am glad this will be of help to some people! It's.... my first 'dress diary.' Ahem.

Date: 2012-02-12 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikestress.livejournal.com
Absolutely amazing! Wonderful work!

Date: 2012-02-12 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thank you! My nicest winter coat yet, really!

Date: 2012-02-12 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uwsannajane.livejournal.com
How cool is this?!!!!

Date: 2012-02-12 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
It is an amazing coat to have. And getting all the details in made me happy,

Date: 2012-02-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinotori.livejournal.com
Here via tumblr, and to say that this is absolutely fantastic. As for the reinforcement or whatever under the collar -- I have no idea what it's called, either, but I have a coat with this exact type of collar, and it's got that bit, too. I think you're probably right about it being there to keep the collar stiff -- especially seen as it could be worn turned up or down ...

Also apropos nothing, are you doing JET? :) Feel free to ignore me, it's just -- Miura-shi isn't your typical choice for much else, and I'm curious.

Date: 2012-02-12 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Teaching, yes! But it's an easy ride on train to Yokohama.

That's good to know about the undercollar. I haven't bought a winter coat in ages, so what would I know.

Thanks, glad some from Tumblr dropped by!

How does that bit on the under collar end? Does it taper down or do the seams go into the collar edge?
Edited Date: 2012-02-12 10:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-02-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moon-19.livejournal.com
This is an amazing work, you are so talented!

Date: 2012-02-13 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thank you! I am happy my fan-love and work is so well-appreciated.

Date: 2012-02-12 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-bug-54.livejournal.com
This is HUGELY impressive work! *envy envy envy*
Edited Date: 2012-02-12 06:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-02-13 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thank you! I was so so so proud of this.

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Date: 2012-02-12 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] a_blackpanther
I absolutely love the original coat - I'd LOVE to have one, so this project of yours really is amazing to me!

Do you do commissions?

Date: 2012-02-12 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
I could never do commissions cheap enough.

One person recc'ed Magnoli Clothiers for commissions, a real tailor type who works with wool and cashmere. 800$ coats... Phew. If it is just a costume coat, Cosplaysky makes one for under 200$, but it's not very accurate.

Date: 2012-02-13 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substituteskull.livejournal.com
Beautiful work!!

You should model the finished project in full!

Date: 2012-02-13 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
No way, Jose. The sock puppet account is pretty much that, and I don't want to put people off with my puddin' face.

I mean, I'm tall and all, but.. yeah. I am not any Cumberbatch. No one has cheekbones like that!

(If I could get a mask... hmmm.)

Date: 2012-02-13 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonniemoss.livejournal.com
You did a fantastic job! here's a link to a blog I read all the time. http://www.blogforbettersewing.com/search/label/tailoring

She's got some phenomenal posts on tailoring in case you were interested in knowing more. Anyway, great job!

Date: 2012-02-13 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Ah, nice blog! Much better organized than mine, but I know I did a half-assed blog with not-enough good info. People - just take the pattern draft and... do what you can! I am not the expert tailor.

Thanks, I am glad you found the post here!

Date: 2012-02-13 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bea-trissa.livejournal.com
Stunning! Great job, really.

Date: 2012-02-13 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thank you! Glad you dropped in to check it out!

Date: 2012-02-14 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] setra.livejournal.com
You win at everything. I am so excited to go get fabric to put this together!

Date: 2012-02-14 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Fabricstore.com has one quite similar to what I used. The black to grey ratio could be higher, but pretty good.

http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool-suiting-fabric-wool-suiting-houndstooth-black-grey.aspx

Thanks for reading!

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Date: 2012-02-16 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stupid-drawings.livejournal.com
That is intense and fabulous!

Date: 2012-02-17 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thank you! It did take some time to build, but it was worth the effort

Date: 2012-02-22 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elmathelas.livejournal.com
Quite extraordinary. Really, well done, beautiful work.

Date: 2012-03-02 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehomet.livejournal.com
Fascinating. Thank you for posting.

Date: 2012-03-03 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thanks for coming in to comment!

Just to saaayyyy

Date: 2012-03-05 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 221balicerose.livejournal.com
I just made an account on here to say that you are actually my hero - Thanks so much for uploading all this coat making stuff!
I'm 15 (not that that has anything to do with anything whatsoever, but meh) and thought I'd try my hand at making my own Sherlock coat. It'll probably end up god awful, but now it will be considerably not as god-awful because of you and this journal you wrote XD

Thanks!

Re: Just to saaayyyy

Date: 2012-03-05 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
No problem, and you never know - I made some pretty decent projects when I was fifteen. Good luck!

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you are a genius and a hero!

Date: 2012-05-01 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruxandra aanicai (from livejournal.com)
thank you! i really hope i'll get this done by autumn. i dreamed of this coat since i watched the first episode!

Date: 2012-05-02 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timestitcher.livejournal.com
You did an amazing job on this coat, I am truly impressed. Wonderful fanfic author and seamstress. :) I stumbled upon this when I was looking at photos thinking about making my own coat. Only problem for me though, is that being a short, curvy Floridian, my needs for this style coat are very limited. Who knows though, maybe this fall I'll break out the Vogue 8346 pattern and adapt a femme version for myself.

Date: 2012-05-02 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thanks! I should edit this again, I think. I made it before Season 2 of Sherlock and now there's more details of the coat ouT, and the undercollar. I can see how being Floridian holds back the opportunities for long coats... even in linen it'd be a pain. But that Vogue one is a great one to work with.
The closest I've found to emulate the Sherlock coat (for females) besides that one is this Burda - http://www.burdastyle.com/patterns/102011-ankle-length-double-breasted-wool-coat
Haven't tried it (of course) but it has the back waist seam and patch pockets!

Date: 2012-06-08 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midgar-skyline.livejournal.com
So, hullo thar! :D I'm not actually a cosplayer but I was browsing about the interwebz for Sherlock fan material and came across your Coat-making saga, and was thoroughly impressed. *le Awe* I'm just popping in now because I thought I say how awesome you are (not that you need anyone to tell you that), and since you wanted to know what that "collar stiffener" thing was, to show you close up photos on how the one on one of my jacket looks like.

Firstly, I think it's different to regular stiffeners on shirt collars, because those reach all the way around the neckline and don't taper. From the picture I found on Tumblr from Baskerville promo shots (I think?) below, you can - thanks to a slight different in pattern alignment - see that it tapers off a few inches away from the end of the collar.

Image (http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0k92mqTKQ1rnkjf6o1_500.jpg)

I have a white denim jacket (not of high quality tailoring, but meh...) that has a very similar setup, so I thought I'd include some pics below.

Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/img5023p.jpg/) Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/img5024gp.jpg/)

As you can see from above, mine has a stiffener on both the outside and inside of the collar respectively, but I have no idea if the Belstaff one has one or two.

For a closer look at the tailoring, please see the two images below.

Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/img5021x.jpg/) Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/img5022x.jpg/)

So, regarding how they're put together, it seems as though it's the same on both sides. Regarding whether they use two seperate pieces or just one large oval-shaped piece initially folded downwards to sandwich the cloth of the main body before flipping both sides up to act as stiffener to the collar pieces, I think it's the latter. Reason being, when I feel along the joins of the collar past where the stiffener(s) actually end, I can feel the protruding parts of where an oval would have been folded.

I think you can actually see a bit of the indentation caused by the thicker amount of material there in one of the above close-up pictures, but I outlined what I can feel below anyways, just encase. :)

Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/img5022zb.jpg/)

That being said, of all that oval-piece thingamajiggy is rendered void if the Belstaff version only has it on one side, but either way, I hope it at least helps a little bit for future projects or encase you decide to make another one for yourself (since you mentioned things you mght want to change). :)

Bye for now!

MS

Date: 2012-06-10 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Wow, WOW! Thank you so much for the feedback and new info!

Yeah... when S2 came out, and I got more screen cap and promo pics, I was all, "Damn." I realized there was some kind of collar band thing which was very like one I have on a Vogue suit coat pattern. If only I had known! The Vogue pattern would have saved my bacon.

OH WELL. THE FABRIC WASN'T RIGHT ANYWAY, I always knew my replica would be somewhat substandard.

And I did find that Replica Prop Forum site, that guy is wonderful for sharing the pics of an original Belstaff.

If you don't mind, I shall certainly link people with questions about the collar band/stiffener to your comment here, I am thrilled you went to so much trouble (especially as I have been too lazy to update the entry myself.)

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Date: 2012-06-08 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midgar-skyline.livejournal.com
Not spam, honest. :( I got a message from LJ saying my post to you was marked as spam, so i hope it didn't eat my entire above message from you.

Anyways! Quick update. I couldn't let the curiosity go, and had a look-see if there were any pics of the inside of the coat and voila (http://www.therpf.com/f24/sherlock-coat-opinions-info-136738/index3.html)! I found a forum for a lot of enthusiastic cosplayers. Some of them even mention your coat as inspiration!

There seems to be a guy there who has an original Belstaff coat and was kind enough to photograph detailed pics (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/shootermcgavin_01/Sherlock/) for the others and to provide measurements for them. I couldn't get the link for the collar close-up to load for me, but I hope it loads for you. If it doesn't you can still see the pic if you click "download" on the fullview Photobucket page.

To make a really long story short - yes, the Belstaff coat has collar stiffeners on both sides, and is thus likely to be constructed the same way my jacket was.

*breathes sigh of relief* (The curse of a scientific mind - I CAN'T LET THINGS GO)

Date: 2012-06-10 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Ha, I know the curse, though my mind is definitively NOT a scientific one, unless it comes Google-fu researching interests like this coat.

The curse of an obsessive mind - I spend AGES doing the research from Series one, and then the test coat (I hated it but the friend I gave it to was pleased enough, even though is was just done in blue velvet and not the wool). So the process in itself was frustrating satisfying both. Even getting the ratio of proportions right from Benedict Cumberbatch's height and extrapolating the button and pocket placement. The whole project was a stretch of my skills, I learned a heck of a lot. The knowledge of an amateur seamstress is never complete, after all.

I did get to the RPF forum, and it's kind of cool to be referenced. I guess I should update and clarify the blog entries a bit more - but at the same time I kind of hope that people can do a bit of what I did - learn by drafting and experimenting. After all, I'm tall enough to wear the original Belstaff but not everyone who attempts the coat is going to be. I'm happy people are using the resource, such as it is. That forum amazes me - people are SO into getting just the right fabric and buttons! (No way I was going to make my own...)

Ray from the forum is an absolute star, helping people out with his pics!

Thanks so much for your interest and the help with the collar stiffener!

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Coat collar

Date: 2012-07-14 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neroon15.livejournal.com
Hi. I'm attempting to make a Sherlock coat too! In order to make the coat collar right, what pattern do you recommend using? I noticed someone in the comments mentioned something about it but I would like your opinion. Thanks!!!

Re: Coat collar

Date: 2012-07-21 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Do read through the comments as well, they have just about as good info as any I have to give.
After some days, I hit upon the best way to show/explain the collar band. The pattern involved is a Burda, you can download the PDF for 5$ and print or get it printed yourself - but happily, the instructions, which will show you the collar band which is similar to Sherlock coat's - that is free.

The pattern is called The Stinchcomb, it's for a men's suit jacket. Here is the pattern site: http://www.burdastyle.com/projects/the-stinchcomb

Here are the instructions: http://www.burdastyle.com/projects/the-stinchcomb/instructions/1

Go here or click on the download all instructions to see them better: http://assets.burdastyle.com/pdf_files/assets/000/359/205/the-stinchcomb_original.pdf?1340794215

The pattern step is Step 10, or page 9 on the instructions PDF.

Hope this is enough to help you!

Wonderful

Date: 2012-09-12 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delongeuranus.livejournal.com
Hello! Just wanted to say your coat looks great... really wonderful. There are not many out there with such accurate details and i've looked around. The cosplay ones are good little coats but merely play things really rather than cool coats to wear. You mentioned never doing commissions because you can't offer them cheap enough but how expensive would it be... honestly. If it's a decent material with well researched accuracy I'd pay for it. If this coat with all your new tweaks and details could be done for anything like $600 - $800 then count... me... in.

The Game Is On.

SR

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Date: 2012-10-01 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Thanks for the interest! No, not going to make another, unless God smiles and I trip over the perfect wool again someday. Even so...

But if you are interested, I did make another post for would-be sewers who are looking to adjust patterns, as well as a couple of links to the few people (as yet) that are making them.

I understand Magnoli Clothiers will make one at some point, but it's still not up yet!

http://jessamygriffith.tumblr.com/tagged/links

Buttons

Date: 2012-09-30 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michael o&apos;donohue (from livejournal.com)
Absolutely fantastic, quite breath taking really. I have a quick question though, any idea where online I might be able to find some buttons that would be close to either yours or the originals? Some cursory searching has turned up zilch.

Re: Buttons

Date: 2012-10-01 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
Online, not so much - I live nearish a fabric district in Japan, and just went through tons of shops until I found one that had what I wanted, and were similar enough.

There was some one on the Real Prop Forum that was making them, I am not sure if they still, or what - as I didn't need them!
Here's links to the relevant pages on the thread that discuss buttons.

http://www.therpf.com/f24/sherlock-coat-opinions-info-136738/index6.html

http://www.therpf.com/f24/sherlock-coat-opinions-info-136738/index7.html

Ah, it seems the member Risu is making them?

http://www.therpf.com/f24/sherlock-coat-opinions-info-136738/index8.html

And another called booksandcorsets: http://www.therpf.com/f24/sherlock-coat-opinions-info-136738/index12.html

I also ended up making a kind of blanket post for would-be sewers, depending on their level of devotion, below:

http://jessamygriffith.tumblr.com/post/32044573011/links-making-your-own-sherlock-coat

Thank you

Date: 2012-10-31 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alex cook (from livejournal.com)
I've been scouring the internet trying to find someone who made a pretty damn good one and came across yours. This will make for an interesting side project to all the usual fashion designey bullshit I have to do at uni ;)

Re: Thank you

Date: 2012-11-01 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
lol

I hope that with your fashion background you can get a better look than mine, at least. I know my sketches are pretty scrubby, but - untrained. Would love to have them patterned up, but it ain't going to happen!

A few people, indeed, have made up their own, none have really shared patterns yet. I feel a bit sorry for people looking at mine, since I mainly tested and eye-balled the proportions like crazy. But I'm sure you can do it, and good luck with the project!

Date: 2012-11-05 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandoras-chaos.livejournal.com
Ok, so I have a degree in costuming. I want to make this coat for my husband, who is so kindly putting up with my Sherlock obsession. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING YOUR PATTERNS!

For real. It's been over six years since I made a tailored coat and I was not really looking forward to re-learning as I went. This helps IMMENSELY.

Thing is, I can't find the fabric. Obviously the real stuff doesn't exist anymore-- especially not in my budget. Any ideas?

(But seriously. Thank you!!)

Date: 2012-11-05 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com
On the Real Prop Forum thread, some people talk a lot about the search for THE PERFECT WOOL and god... If I waited that long, I wouldn't have the best coat in Japan. I just used a black and grey houndstooth. It's okay from three meters.

(If you are interests in that thread, I'm on mobile and can't link at moment but search Sherlock bbc coat how to and maybe RPF or Real Prop Forum and it should pop up.)

Also check some comments on some of my posts? There was one where a girl popped up and said, HERE's THe REAL COLLAR BAND! Which is useful.

I made the coat post series one. Some details I just couldn't see.
You may also want to check the back pattern in series two: I think it's darts that go to shoulder blades, but could also be pleats! Apparently the WWII coats it was partly based on, the belt pulled it in and the pleats happened on either side of centre seam above and below the waist.

One thing that was confirmed on the RPF forum was that there is a centre back seam that holds the pleats, and the overlapping back belt is just decorative.

Glad you enjoy the sketches, and Godspeed! Since you know how to draft and toile, I'm sure you'll be fine! Good luck!

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From: [identity profile] jessamygriffin.livejournal.com - Date: 2012-11-05 06:33 am (UTC) - Expand

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